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ORDERS, DECORATIONS AND MILITARY MEDALS, Gallantry Groups, The Great War Distinguished Service Order group of 7 awarded to Squadron Leader T. W. "Tommy" Lloyd, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, Intelligence Officer to 617 "Dambuster" Squadron, late Liverpool Regiment: a close witness to the momentous events of Operation Chastise 16/17 May 1943, and a popular squadron personality, he was killed in a flying accident in February 1944, comprising Distinguished Service Order, G.V.R., silver-gilt and enamels; 1914-15 Star, naming erased; British War and Victory Medals 1914-1920 (Major T.W. Lloyd) with M.i.D. emblem; 1939-45 Defence and War Medals, unnamed as issued with M.i.D. emblem; Serbian Order of St Sava, 5th class breast badge, silver and enamels. Minor enamel damage to lower arm of the Order of St Stava, otherwise good very fine. (7)
Distinguished Service Order London Gazette 3 June, 1918:
'For distinguished services rendered with the British Forces on the Mediterranean Line of Communications.'
Mention in despatches London Gazette:
15 August 1917, 7 October 1918, 1 January 1943, 8 June 1944
Thomas Williams Lloyd served with the 4th Battalion, King's Liverpool Regiment, in France from March 1915, where he was wounded. Afterwards he was appointed Adjutant to a unit of 2000 Royal Engineers at Liphook for six months, before he joined the mission that evacuated the Serbian Army from Albania to Salonika. He then spent a year in Mesopotamia as personal assistant to General Grey, who ran river transport, and worked out the scheme on which the advance to Baghdad was based. His subsequent award of the DSO was gazetted to him as a Captain (Acting Major), Liverpool Regiment, Special Reserve, employed Royal Engineers, and was the only award listed under the relevant heading.
Towards the end of the war he was transferred to Italy for service in transportation and, after the armistice, was one of a mission of three officers sent by the War Office to report on communications in Hungary and the Adriatic Ports.
On the renewal of hostilities, "Tommy" Lloyd was commissioned into the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, and served as the Intelligence Officer at Woodhall Spa, an appointment that witnessed him acting as I.O. to Guy Gibson's newly formed "Squadron X", soon to be retitled No. 617 "Dambuster" Squadron. By all accounts, including Paul Brickhill's best-selling history, Lloyd was a popular squadron personality and patently a first-hand witness to the momentous events of May 1943, not least when he debriefed the returning "Dambuster's".
Gibson, too, mentions him on several times in his classic memoir Enemy Coast Ahead, on one occasion for coming up with the idea of marking targets with incendiaries dropped by crack Beaufighter or Mosquito crews - "their job would be to go in at dusk, just before the main force was due, and drop coloured incendiaries on the factory itself. These could be seen from high up and the boys of the main force would be able to do steady bombing runs which would plaster the area with cookies." Gibson countered Lloyd's suggestion with the heavy loss likely to be suffered by the marking force, but noticed that the idea went down well with others, among them "Hoppy" Hopgood.
Sadly, as recounted by Paul Brickhill, "Tommy" Lloyd was killed in a flying accident on 13 February 1944:
'About the same time the rest of the squadron was landing at Ford in thick weather. Tommy Lloyd, Woodhall intelligence officer, had flown to Ford and de-briefed them, and then the weather worsened and it looked as though they were stranded for a while. [Squadron Leader Bill] Suggitt thought he could make it to Woodhall Spa all right and offered a seat in his aircraft to Lloyd, a gallant and revered World War I veteran. The immaculate Lloyd accepted but insisted on having a shave before take-off. A little later, spruce and monocled, he climbed into "J Jug" with Suggitt, and five minutes later the aircraft flew into a hill and everyone was killed instantly except Bill Suggitt, who lingered for a couple of days before he died.'
Their Lancaster hit a tree atop Littleton Down, the highest point on the South Downs in Sussex, and instantly spun into the ground. A local farmer found Bill Suggitt strapped in his seat shouting "Turn the engines off," but he lost consciousness shortly afterwards. Another crew member killed in the accident was Guy Gibson's Flight Engineer from the Dam's raid, John Pulford, DFM.
Five days later, Wing Commander Cheshire, commanding No. 617 Squadron, wrote to Lloyd's widow:
'Dear Mrs. Lloyd,
I have very much wanted to call on you and speak to you in person. Since I have been unable to leave the Station, I am taking this opportunity of writing to you.
Your husband was killed while flying from Ford, in Sussex, back to this Station. He had been down there with the Squadron, as was his usual custom, and having finished his work down there, was on his way back with us. The pilot was a Canadian called Suggitt, an experienced Captain with 64 operations to his credit. I regret to say that they crashed into a hill while flying in cloud. The whole crew died instantly except Suggitt, who, although unconscious, remained alive for two days.
Your husband had been with this Squadron ever since it first formed, and wherever the Squadron went, he went too. He looked after us not only as an Intelligence Officer, but also as a friend, and I don't think that any loss could mean more to us than his. I know there is little I can say that will help you or ease your burden, but I would at least like to tell you something of the influence that Tommy had on all of us. He was somehow a man to whom you could always turn in trouble, and a man who always did so much to make our life happier and more comfortable.
Wherever I may go, I know that I shall meet no-one more tolerant or unselfish, and on behalf of everyone here, as well as myself, I would like to extend to you my great appreciation and gratefulness for all that he did for us, and for the personal sacrifices that he so often made. I would like to extend to you my deepest and most profound sympathy.
Yours sincerely,
G. W. Cheshire
Wing Commander, Commanding No. 617 Squadron'
Sold with a quantity of original documentation, including the recipient's commission warrants for the rank of 2nd Lieutenant in the 4th Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment), dated 5 September 1914, and Pilot Officer, R.A.F.V.R., dated 17 September 1940; D.S.O. warrant, dated 3 June 1918, with related Statutes; two M.I.D. certificates, dated 1 January 1943 and 8 June 1944, together with Air Ministry letters; Ministry of Pensions illuminated Memorial Scroll and Buckingham Palace condolence letter in the name of 'Squadron Leader T. W. Lloyd, Royal Air Force'; and a contemporary copy of Cheshire's condolence letter.
Estimate: £1500-2000
Distinguished Service Order London Gazette 3 June, 1918:
'For distinguished services rendered with the British Forces on the Mediterranean Line of Communications.'
Mention in despatches London Gazette:
15 August 1917, 7 October 1918, 1 January 1943, 8 June 1944
Thomas Williams Lloyd served with the 4th Battalion, King's Liverpool Regiment, in France from March 1915, where he was wounded. Afterwards he was appointed Adjutant to a unit of 2000 Royal Engineers at Liphook for six months, before he joined the mission that evacuated the Serbian Army from Albania to Salonika. He then spent a year in Mesopotamia as personal assistant to General Grey, who ran river transport, and worked out the scheme on which the advance to Baghdad was based. His subsequent award of the DSO was gazetted to him as a Captain (Acting Major), Liverpool Regiment, Special Reserve, employed Royal Engineers, and was the only award listed under the relevant heading.
Towards the end of the war he was transferred to Italy for service in transportation and, after the armistice, was one of a mission of three officers sent by the War Office to report on communications in Hungary and the Adriatic Ports.
On the renewal of hostilities, "Tommy" Lloyd was commissioned into the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, and served as the Intelligence Officer at Woodhall Spa, an appointment that witnessed him acting as I.O. to Guy Gibson's newly formed "Squadron X", soon to be retitled No. 617 "Dambuster" Squadron. By all accounts, including Paul Brickhill's best-selling history, Lloyd was a popular squadron personality and patently a first-hand witness to the momentous events of May 1943, not least when he debriefed the returning "Dambuster's".
Gibson, too, mentions him on several times in his classic memoir Enemy Coast Ahead, on one occasion for coming up with the idea of marking targets with incendiaries dropped by crack Beaufighter or Mosquito crews - "their job would be to go in at dusk, just before the main force was due, and drop coloured incendiaries on the factory itself. These could be seen from high up and the boys of the main force would be able to do steady bombing runs which would plaster the area with cookies." Gibson countered Lloyd's suggestion with the heavy loss likely to be suffered by the marking force, but noticed that the idea went down well with others, among them "Hoppy" Hopgood.
Sadly, as recounted by Paul Brickhill, "Tommy" Lloyd was killed in a flying accident on 13 February 1944:
'About the same time the rest of the squadron was landing at Ford in thick weather. Tommy Lloyd, Woodhall intelligence officer, had flown to Ford and de-briefed them, and then the weather worsened and it looked as though they were stranded for a while. [Squadron Leader Bill] Suggitt thought he could make it to Woodhall Spa all right and offered a seat in his aircraft to Lloyd, a gallant and revered World War I veteran. The immaculate Lloyd accepted but insisted on having a shave before take-off. A little later, spruce and monocled, he climbed into "J Jug" with Suggitt, and five minutes later the aircraft flew into a hill and everyone was killed instantly except Bill Suggitt, who lingered for a couple of days before he died.'
Their Lancaster hit a tree atop Littleton Down, the highest point on the South Downs in Sussex, and instantly spun into the ground. A local farmer found Bill Suggitt strapped in his seat shouting "Turn the engines off," but he lost consciousness shortly afterwards. Another crew member killed in the accident was Guy Gibson's Flight Engineer from the Dam's raid, John Pulford, DFM.
Five days later, Wing Commander Cheshire, commanding No. 617 Squadron, wrote to Lloyd's widow:
'Dear Mrs. Lloyd,
I have very much wanted to call on you and speak to you in person. Since I have been unable to leave the Station, I am taking this opportunity of writing to you.
Your husband was killed while flying from Ford, in Sussex, back to this Station. He had been down there with the Squadron, as was his usual custom, and having finished his work down there, was on his way back with us. The pilot was a Canadian called Suggitt, an experienced Captain with 64 operations to his credit. I regret to say that they crashed into a hill while flying in cloud. The whole crew died instantly except Suggitt, who, although unconscious, remained alive for two days.
Your husband had been with this Squadron ever since it first formed, and wherever the Squadron went, he went too. He looked after us not only as an Intelligence Officer, but also as a friend, and I don't think that any loss could mean more to us than his. I know there is little I can say that will help you or ease your burden, but I would at least like to tell you something of the influence that Tommy had on all of us. He was somehow a man to whom you could always turn in trouble, and a man who always did so much to make our life happier and more comfortable.
Wherever I may go, I know that I shall meet no-one more tolerant or unselfish, and on behalf of everyone here, as well as myself, I would like to extend to you my great appreciation and gratefulness for all that he did for us, and for the personal sacrifices that he so often made. I would like to extend to you my deepest and most profound sympathy.
Yours sincerely,
G. W. Cheshire
Wing Commander, Commanding No. 617 Squadron'
Sold with a quantity of original documentation, including the recipient's commission warrants for the rank of 2nd Lieutenant in the 4th Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment), dated 5 September 1914, and Pilot Officer, R.A.F.V.R., dated 17 September 1940; D.S.O. warrant, dated 3 June 1918, with related Statutes; two M.I.D. certificates, dated 1 January 1943 and 8 June 1944, together with Air Ministry letters; Ministry of Pensions illuminated Memorial Scroll and Buckingham Palace condolence letter in the name of 'Squadron Leader T. W. Lloyd, Royal Air Force'; and a contemporary copy of Cheshire's condolence letter.
Estimate: £1500-2000